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by Oberon01
Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:19 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Saskatchewan
Replies: 2
Views: 1020

Re: Saskatchewan

Yep, I know a fellow in Regina. I'll send you a PM with his details.
by Oberon01
Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:02 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Boat Shipping
Replies: 11
Views: 2357

Re: Boat Shipping

Good Morning - I have towed a number of my boats extensively all over the US and under most circumstances, I do so uncovered. This is because of chaffing damage from the mooring cover, which is a real concern as you state. I have a bolt on screen attachment that fits on the front of the trailer to b...
by Oberon01
Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:26 pm
Forum: From the Club
Topic: The Brass Bell - Issue 2015-4
Replies: 23
Views: 28856

Re: The Brass Bell - Issue 2015-4

Doug - Re-read my reply, please. I addressed your opinion that Trading Dock ads should be printed in the magazine with hard facts. The printing of the ads was economically not viable, as indicated by Al Benton. The prior inclusion of the ads in the Bell simply had no foundation in economic reality -...
by Oberon01
Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:12 pm
Forum: From the Club
Topic: The Brass Bell - Issue 2015-4
Replies: 23
Views: 28856

Re: The Brass Bell - Issue 2015-4

Doug P. & Nemo - I am off the BOD now, so speaking for myself only. I was a strong advocate of removing the Trading Dock from the publication when we were forced into taking over the CCABC by the failure of prior management in early 2012, and may have even been the one who suggested it. When I actua...
by Oberon01
Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:16 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Chris Craft and Quality Control
Replies: 37
Views: 5453

Re: Chris Craft and Quality Control

Good points, Mike. It was a different era - not better, just different. 30+ years ago as a kid I worked in a pioneer village kind of museum, with working stores, exhibits and machines. I actually worked in the blacksmiths' shop and one of my jobs was to heat up the forge, fire up the drive engine an...
by Oberon01
Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:23 am
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: The Red and White Model W engine
Replies: 38
Views: 6355

Re: The Red and White Model W engine

Hi Joanroy - I think the W was used from roughly the early '40's until the very late '50's or possibly even very early '60's. I am no expert but I believe the Chris Craft 4 &6cylinder engines, all of which were Hercules in origin unless otherwise specified, listed with minor changes from the early t...
by Oberon01
Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:16 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Chris Craft and Quality Control
Replies: 37
Views: 5453

Re: Chris Craft and Quality Control

Hi Denny - In a lot of cases, there is no doubt that very old things were built to very high standards. I make toast on a 1946 toaster, works great. Problem is it cost $25 in 1946, likely more than a basic two-slice unit costs now. In today's money, that toaster would cost $331. Who the heck would e...
by Oberon01
Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:54 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Chris Craft and Quality Control
Replies: 37
Views: 5453

Re: Chris Craft and Quality Control

Hi Denny - I keep all my boats as close to original as possible, and in almost every case they are mechanically as they were when built. 6 volt, vacuum fuel pumps, point ignitions, original everything - only because I want the operating experience that the original owner had. With attentive maintena...
by Oberon01
Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:26 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Chris Craft and Quality Control
Replies: 37
Views: 5453

Re: Chris Craft and Quality Control

Couldn't agree more, Greg. I find the flaws to be part of the boats' story and in most cases, I have retained the flaws through whatever preservation/restoration process I was involved in. I don't want to represent them as something they were not to begin with if possible. Never the less, the flaws ...
by Oberon01
Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:19 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: The Red and White
Replies: 15
Views: 3381

Re: The Red and White

I like these - a lot. Thanks for stepping up and saving this. Looks like a big project, but then again they all do, don't they? I might want to own one of these one day, now is not the right time but I have thought rather seriously of them in the past.

Best of luck with the project!
by Oberon01
Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:51 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: Chris Craft and Quality Control
Replies: 37
Views: 5453

Re: Chris Craft and Quality Control

I have noticed this over the years as well. People tend to think these were built by craftsmen, when that was no more the case than a '61 Impala was built by a craftsman at GM. I recently had a 1961 21' Continental with the gullwing hard top restored. The top is just not square to the boat - never w...
by Oberon01
Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:13 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: WHAT IS A UNRESTORED 22 FT SEDAN CRUISER WORTH
Replies: 13
Views: 2768

Re: WHAT IS A UNRESTORED 22 FT SEDAN CRUISER WORTH

I AM 6FT 4 IS THE CABIN ROOF LOW, DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE 5FT6 COMMENT,HOW MANY ARE LEFT THANKS Sorry forgot to comment on numbers. I think they produced around 430 of these boats in total over a period of about 7 years or so (I don't have access to my Essential Guide which provides production number...
by Oberon01
Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:04 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: WHAT IS A UNRESTORED 22 FT SEDAN CRUISER WORTH
Replies: 13
Views: 2768

Re: WHAT IS A UNRESTORED 22 FT SEDAN CRUISER WORTH

I have a 1946 Gar Wood 22'6" Sedan and my brother in law has a 1953 or '54 22' Chris Craft Custom Sedan, which is what I believe you are looking at. I have ridden in it many times and it is currently under a full restoration - a mild resto-mod with substantial modern V-8 power and skinned hull but o...
by Oberon01
Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:23 am
Forum: Research Related
Topic: 1931 Model 277, Wanderlust
Replies: 25
Views: 5473

Re: 1931 Model 277, Wanderlust

Wow - I am very pleased to read of this. What an undertaking and what a commitment, and I am sure entire CC community will be equally pleased to know this vessel is being saved. I hope you will keep us all well informed as the project proceeds.
by Oberon01
Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:17 pm
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Paragon rebuild question
Replies: 26
Views: 5631

Re: Paragon rebuild question

The original transmission from the Continental is an HJA-D. The other one with a reduction gear does not have a tag, but the following numbers: 6E 4117 P44R Z7730L I am not sure what these mean. But, it did come off a 431 Thermocon so it is more recent than the original transmission. Does anyone kno...
by Oberon01
Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:40 pm
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Paragon rebuild question
Replies: 26
Views: 5631

Re: Paragon rebuild question

Thanks Jim - I may have the bell housing - I have to check all the parts. I bought a spare 431 Lincoln with the trans attached and I confess to not knowing exactly what model of trans the parts engine had. I can find that out tomorrow. I have the transmission and I believe I kept the bell housing, t...
by Oberon01
Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:47 pm
Forum: Engines & Powertrain
Topic: Paragon rebuild question
Replies: 26
Views: 5631

Paragon rebuild question

I am having the paragon from my '61 Continental rebuilt, as upon inspection it appears to have suffered damage from water incursion, among other contaminants, apparently. Long story short, the price I am getting seems high at $2500, including $1450 in labor for a transmission that is delivered to th...
by Oberon01
Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:18 am
Forum: Research Related
Topic: Hull card mystery
Replies: 11
Views: 3773

Re: Hull card mystery

I am presently having my '21 1961 Continental restored, and another of these boats is being restored by a fellow I know in Idaho. My boat has an earlier hull number but was shipped 5 months later than the boat being restored in Idaho. I suspect they built a batch of these boats in late 1959-early 19...
by Oberon01
Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:24 am
Forum: How to Use Boat Buzz
Topic: just bought 49 sportsman for restoration
Replies: 6
Views: 1656

Re: just bought 49 sportsman for restoration

Welcome - The U22 was very popular then and remains so today for very good reason - wonderful boats and easy to use. There is an abundance of material available in the archive of the CCABC in respect of these boats, but there is far more available from the experiences and talents of the members of t...
by Oberon01
Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:34 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Research Related
Topic: Early Glass CC Runabout
Replies: 35
Views: 7351

Re: Early Glass CC Runabout

I would agree with Troy that there are MANY, MANY choices out there aside from CC's - CC was relatively late to the fiberglass party and while they made some very beautiful and compelling boats, there are not that many of them. The XK-19 is probably my favorite, and they are becoming rare and costly...
by Oberon01
Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:59 am
Forum: Fiberglass - Odds & Ends
Topic: FLASH makes a Splash!!
Replies: 6
Views: 2693

Re: FLASH makes a Splash!!

Love it! Thanks for posting. Looks like Wilson Wright's old boat. Great to see you out enjoying her, and also hear how the show attendees responded as well.
by Oberon01
Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:34 am
Forum: From the Club
Topic: Election of 2015 Directors
Replies: 20
Views: 56893

Re: 2014 Election of Directors

Thanks Doug - you may rest assured that we will be in contact with you. Volunteering for committee work or to assist in other area's of club operation is a very powerful way for an interested individual to initially signify his interest in ultimately becoming involved in club management and operatio...
by Oberon01
Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:58 pm
Forum: Gar Wood - General Discussion
Topic: 1940 19'6" barrelback
Replies: 5
Views: 2807

Re: 1940 19'6" barrelback

This is a question that's perfect for Brian Robinson, I'd say.
by Oberon01
Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:57 pm
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: old magazine
Replies: 2
Views: 965

Re: old magazine

Do you have some sort of list or approximation of the names and publication dates of the magazines? Could be some interesting stuff there, to be sure.


Thanks,
by Oberon01
Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:17 am
Forum: On the Hard
Topic: 1930 48' Commuter FREE
Replies: 7
Views: 3347

Re: 1930 48' Commuter FREE

The bottom line is that the cost of this boat is so far beyond the means of even most of the more affluent participants in our hobby that it is likely doomed. No one knows what it would cost to restore, but I would think $750k is a reasonable starting point. Once the boat is done, what is it worth? ...
by Oberon01
Thu May 15, 2014 9:31 am
Forum: How to Use Boat Buzz
Topic: 1954 Chris Craft Custom Sedan Hard Top
Replies: 12
Views: 3193

Re: 1954 Chris Craft Custom Sedan Hard Top

Welcome! You mention BC - I summer in BC and have a house on Shuswap Lake there, as does my brother in law. He also has a 1954 Chris Craft 22' Sedan, which is currently undergoing a complete restoration. He is putting in modern power but generally retaining its' original appearance. I have a 25' Spo...
by Oberon01
Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:53 pm
Forum: How to Use Boat Buzz
Topic: wanderlust
Replies: 4
Views: 1414

Re: wanderlust

I believe there were only 5 of these built and I know of only one other one remaining, located in Montreal, Quebec, Canada I believe. I am away from home at the moment and do not have my Chris Craft book with me so I cannot verify the dimensions of the boat. It would be extremely difficult to estima...
by Oberon01
Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:26 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: A curious Craigslist posting......
Replies: 69
Views: 16894

Re: A curious Craigslist posting......

Don, there is one left that I know of and it is located in Montreal, PQ Canada. It is used and shown very regularly by some dedicated and apparently enthusiastic hobbyists from the area. It can be seen at local shows, and it apparently gets around. I have seen pictures and it's a wonderful boat. The...
by Oberon01
Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:33 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: A curious Craigslist posting......
Replies: 69
Views: 16894

Re: A curious Craigslist posting......

I think this one came with A70's Don, and they can be bought but are hard to find. I would think fully rebuilt A70's are $50k a pop, but that is just a guess. I suppose if one is spending the money to do the rest of the baot, what's $100k for engines? Based on my experience, rebuilding the two Scrip...
by Oberon01
Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:47 am
Forum: Odds & Ends
Topic: A curious Craigslist posting......
Replies: 69
Views: 16894

Re: A curious Craigslist posting......

A huge project for someone with a lot of passion, not to mention money. The asking price is reasonable but the actual purchase price itself will be little more than a rounding error on the final tally once this is done. A very special boat for a very special and dedicated hobbyist. I considered this...