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Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby jfrprops » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:36 am

what is the deal with the fall off in post on Boat Buzz...some suggest the evil Fakebook page is sucking content?
Let's remember you can't archive stuff off of fakebook like our boat buzz...this stuff is important and we need to save it for future CC researchers.....????

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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby robertpaul » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:41 am

I'm doing my best John....
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby jbyers » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:40 am

Is there no official association between CCABC and the FB page?
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby joanroy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:55 pm

I think, in part, it has to do with the fact that less folks are interested in old wooden CC's and the majority of the few fans left no longer have the skill or interest in doing their own restorations. The skills required are out of vogue. Facebook and gadgeting are in. Carpentry, finishing, mechanics, etc. are out.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby Doug P » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:10 pm

jfrprops wrote:what is the deal with the fall off in post on Boat Buzz...some suggest the evil Fakebook page is sucking content?
Let's remember you can't archive stuff off of fakebook like our boat buzz...this stuff is important and we need to save it for future CC researchers.....????

John in Va.



AGREE, CCABC on Fakebook is more for non members
Boat Buzz posts are way down.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby robertpaul » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:52 pm

I accessed the Facebook page today for the first time after reading these posts. I dislike Facebook because it is only in chronological order, whereas this site nicely groups threads and is easy to follow. Despite this, I concede that the Facebook page seems to be garnering more projects and followers. It IS displacing this forum. As grateful as I am for the few members who consistently comment and make brilliant suggestions (all of which have helped me enormously) on my thread about rebuilding Elude, I am thinking that there is declining interest. I will continue to post here, but it is a bit discouraging. I saw one post on the Facebook page where someone is working on a cruiser hull like my 35' 1937, and I would love to share knowledge, but Facebook is a poor forum for that. In the spirit of sharing, I suggest that steam bending a 4' piece of 7/8" mahogany is really tough. It is just too short. You may want to try laminating 3 pieces that add up in thickness to 7/8" with epoxy glue as you easily bend them into the compound curve. Use a few dowels so they don't move around when you clamp them together. Good night Mrs. Calabash... where ever you are.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby Captain Nemo » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:52 am

I will continue to post here. I will not go to the Dark Side☠️.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby tkhersom » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:33 am

The hope is to get people who would not know of The Boat Buzz aware and interested through FB and then they become members and increase our membership and activity here. Unfortunately there seems to be an attitude of "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby Doug P » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:50 am

tkhersom wrote:The hope is to get people who would not know of The Boat Buzz aware and interested through FB and then they become members and increase our membership and activity here. Unfortunately there seems to be an attitude of "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"



While I subscribe to many CC sites on FB, I see reposts of same articles on EVERY site. This redundancy has made me shut down all FB sites of CC content :(
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby joanroy » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:08 pm

Just need to liven it up a bit with some great photos with captivating descriptions. Show and Tell! I'm not great at a posting photos, but I'll see what I can come up with. Troy? Robs doing his part.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby mbigpops » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:58 pm

Know who you are dealing with. The "me" generation want instant gratification and reassurance.

Telling new members that they lack the skills to restore boats is a no no.

Other forums allow "likes" of posts and titles of members that post accurate and helpful advice versus blind opinion. Maybe that could be applied here.

Instead of worrying about losing to other forms of social media why not look at other examples and be proactive.

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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby joanroy » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:15 am

That's a problem. There is no such thing as instant gratification if you take on a restoration yourself. Takes time and a tremendous amount of skill and work. The only way to get the instant gratification, is to visit the professional restorer and write the check. My take, the main purpose of The Buzz is to help the do it yourselfer who's willing to learn and spend the countless hours It takes to complete a restoration. New members can certainly learn and are always welcome. Just need to have the time and patience and no expectations of instant gratification. I love working on wooden boats!
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby jfrprops » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:55 am

a poster above signed off with "with goodnight Mrs. Calabash wherever you are"....that is the problem! If you are old enough to remember Jimmy Durante.....you are too old to appreciate Fakebook!

I am going boating....sorry I started this thread.....

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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby mbigpops » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:52 pm

I never said they had to complete the restoration instantly.

What I said was they want instant feedback when they post progress on their project with likes and comments that are positive reassurance. That is usually what they get from Facebook.

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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby robertpaul » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:39 pm

Using the CCABC Public Facebook page, I found the site for the Naval Museum in Quebec City and their restoration of the Jeffy Jan II. They have even provided film from when the boat was originally delivered and used by the military during the war. It is a carbon copy of our 1937 35' Double Enclosed Cruiser and I was thrilled to see everything on their Facebook page. We are now planning a trip to QC this summer to see the boat. The museum is free but we intend to leave a donation for the good work they do. By the way, even though I remember Jimmy Durante, I am quite able to use Facebook and chew gum at the same time. The Club has my thanks for the idea of the Public site.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby jfrprops » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:20 am

I don't chew gum either.....

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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby jnbailey71 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:10 pm

I personally have stopped using boat buzz as frequently as I was for a few reasons.

1. The general decline of folks posting on the forum, it used to be exciting when I could sign on every day and read and see a bunch of relevant stuff to my restoration. I stopped visiting so frequently because people stopped posting so frequently.

2. The tremendous amount of experts and conflicting opinions. I know everyone has great experience and opinions are like you know whats, but I have had a problem with posting a question and it spinning off into a topic completely unrelated to my question.

3. The willingness to provide unsolicited information. Not everyone who is on this forum is looking to go out and win over judges. I personally am restoring a boat that has been in my family for 40 years, I want to enjoy it over the next 60+ years and therefore I am making changes that are not going to be judged well, but that is my prerogative. I've posted before, pictures of a wood supplier I went to, progress on my restoration, only to be met with the "Fact Police" making sure I know that I am using different wood than what came from the factory. News to everyone- all the wood we use today is different than what came from the factory, newer trees, poorer quality, etc.

I think this forum is a great tool for all, I cannot express how grateful I have been for many of the people who have provided great guidance to me. I understand everyone comes out here to browse the pages with their free time and do appreciate that. Hopefully some of what I have said will lean some insight into the decline in traffic.
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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby mbigpops » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:26 pm

Well said Josh. I am on board with everything that you have stated here.

If there was a "like" button I would have clicked on it instead of typing this response.

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Re: Fakebook hurting Boat Buzz?

Postby jfrprops » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:47 am

Yes, Josh....you make good points.
three of them.

as to the first: decline in traffic pertaining to your specific interest. That happens ....but I wonder if the fakebook deal contributes to that? ?? Not a lot of folks doing the same projects....so traffic in relevant info tapers off I guess.

as to #2: That definitely happens, a lot. I am guilty of it...spinning off on a tangent ..... In my case I think I must do that because I don't really know how to start another topic on that spin off subject without a lot of ground work/explanation etc etc.
You are certainly correct though.

#3 Right on.

thanks for the posting.

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