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Post by Pete DeVito » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:36 pm

How would I find the factory that my 1948 17' runabout was built in? I have the hull card and it shows the destination but I don't see anything on it that show the origin.
What is a B.S.O. No. at the top of the hull card next to the Hull No.?
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Post by Chad Durren » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:48 pm

My Cadillac hull card has the B.S.O. # C-10355. Who signed the hull card at the bottom right? Perhaps you can compare it to the hull card postings from earlier this year on the forum.
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Post by Pete DeVito » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:24 pm

Chad,
My B.S.O. No B 10336 what is this?
The person that signed my hull card is Forest G. Boerma 2/17/48
Does this help in finding the factory location?
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Post by Bill Basler » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:20 am

Chad, here's your signer, Anthony F. Dugan

CADILLAC -- Anthony F. "Tony" Dugan of Cadillac died Friday, March 10, 2000, at his home following a lengthy illness. He was 83. Mr. Dugan was born Jan. 27, 1917 in Philadelphia to Steven and Sophie (Lewanduski) Dugan. He married Marguerite L. Burkett Feb. 10, 1945 in Detroit. Mr. Dugan graduated from St. Mary's High School in Philadelphia and later worked as a stevedore until World War II. A veteran of the United States Army Air Corps, he was stationed as a sergeant in Azores. He and his wife moved to Cadillac after World War II. Mr. Dugan worked for Chris Craft Boat Co., and then in the Wexford County Assessors Office until his retirement. Mr. Dugan was a member of the Cadillac American Legion Post No. 94 and the US-TOO Support Group. He attended the United Methodist Church in Cadillac. He enjoyed gardening and lawn work. He loved his wife of 55 years and his family. Survivors include his wife, Marguerite Dugan of Cadillac; son, Brian Dugan of Bay City; daughter, Brenda Dugan of Indianapolis; granddaughter, Christina of Bay City; brother, Steven Dugan of Philadelphia; sister, Sophie Jasionowski of Philadelphia. He was preceded in death by his parents and two brothers, Robert and John Dugan. Services are 2 p.m. Tuesday at the United Methodist Church in Cadillac, with Pastor Allen McCreedy and Parish Assistant Judy Coffey officiating. Burial will be in Lake City Cemetery with military honors under the auspices of Lake City American Legion No. 300. Visitation is 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. today at Hitesman Funeral Home in Cadillac and 1 p.m. until the time of services Tuesday at the church. Memorials can be directed to Hospice of Michigan or American Cancer Society.
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Post by RichardSGambino » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:08 pm

One of the things I love about these forums is when you least expect it bits of information shoot out. Answers my question about build location as my card is also signed Tony Duggan. Got to love it.
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Post by Chad Durren » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:26 pm

Thanks Bill. Is the B.S.O.# an internal Build Order? Similar to a P.O. perhaps?

Pete, I just did a family tree search for "Forrest Boerma" and found the following death certificate.

Birth Date: 17 Dec 1917
Death Date: 9 Mar 2001
Death Residence: Cascade, Michigan
Also lived in the following Michigan locations:
East Grand Rapids, Cascade, Kent, Forest Hills and Kentwood.

I'm betting that he was employed at the Holland plant, making your boat a Holland factory boat. The commute to the Cadillac plant would have been too far and costly.

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Post by Wilson Wright » Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:40 pm

Bill:

Nice tribute to Tony Dugin....Mayby Bill Baldwin will embelish from the Chris Craft angle and post in The Brass Bell.

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Post by Wood Commander » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:59 am

The Holland plant was built in 1939 and was the main plant for cruisers from 25' to 45'. It was sold out of the Murray-Chris Craft bankruptcy in the later 1980's. In the later years fiberglass cruisers were built there.

Actually, the new- for- 1964 fiberglass 38' Commander, Chris Craft's first large, fiberglass cruiser, had it's molds made and was built in the brick building on the grounds adjacent to the main Holland plant. The hulls were then moved into the main plant (wooden building) for finishing out. Chris Smith told me that they did this due to the worry about the fiberglass chemicals and fire in the wooden main plant as opposed to the brick building.

Anyway, the Cadillac plant built smaller boats. And the original plant in Algonac built small boats and probably only some of the very large ones as well after the opening of the Holland plant in 1939.
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Post by Wilson Wright » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:22 am

Built a lot of the landing barges at Holland during the war.
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Post by Chad Durren » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:28 am

So, is it possible that Pete's 1948 - 17' runabout was built at the Holland plant? I'm aware that the Holland plant built mostly cruisers. "Forrest Boerma", the signer on Pete's hullcard was a resident of the Grand Rapids area.

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Post by Pete DeVito » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:27 am

Chad,
Thanks for the information!!
Does anyone else out there have the name Forrest G. Boerma as the signer on their hull card? This was on my 17' Deluxe and I would be interested who signed Al's hull card on his 1948 17' Deluxe. Second question is that I am still confused as to the B.S.O. No. B10336 at the top of my hull card and could this shed any light on the factory. Does this stand for Shop Order?

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Post by Russ Arrand » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:58 pm

I believe BSO stands for Boat Shipping Order for internal inventory control. Forrest Boerma worked at the Cadillac Plant and substituted for Tony Dugan when he was absent.
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Post by Al Benton » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:59 pm

Russ,
Thanks for that. So, Pete, our '48, 17' Deluxes were built at the Cadillac facility. That's good to know. My hull card was signed by Forrest G. Boerma too.

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Post by Pete DeVito » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:48 pm

Russ,
Great News!!! Thanks for your help and this will help Al and I.
Does anyone have any pictures of the Cadillac plant and is it still standing?
Just another piece to the puzzle.
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Post by tom king » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:30 pm

The 57 Sportsman I had was signed by Anthony Dugan at the Cadillac plant.

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Post by qukalake » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:44 pm

That seals it, my 56 Holiday was autographed by Dugan as well.
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Post by Mango » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:57 am

My 1948 Deluxe was not far in production behind Pete's. BSO # B10352 (his-10336) delivered in June 1948 in NYC. It was also a Forrest G. Boerma signed card.

So...it must be a Cadillac Plant origin too. Right? The card does not indicate this.

Interesting...when the orig gas tank was re done Dec '09, we found a bottom stamped emblem, "Chris Craft Corp, Cadillac, Mich."
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Post by Chad Durren » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:49 pm

My Cadillac boat had a gas tank that was marked on one end with the info on the photo below. I can make out some numbers, "Caruthersville, and Chris Craft Corp". I assume parts were being shipped back and forth between plants when supplies were low. Perhaps my Cadillac boat had a tank from the Caruthersville plant.
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Post by Russ Arrand » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:51 am

Its funny this has come up again. Don Danenberg and I are compiling a list of names of the people that signed the hull cards in order to identify the plants. I will post it here when complete.
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Cadillac plant

Post by jwoldeboat » Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:24 pm

Just checked my hull card and found that my 1956 Capri CP21-129 was made in the Cadillac plant and was signed off on2/24/56 by a Donald Miller,BOS # F-77

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Post by Reginald Down » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:52 am

The hull card for my 1952 Riviera (R-18-739) was signed by Anthony Dugan at the Cadillac, Michigan plant on March 10, 1952. The boat was shipped to Kenneth E. Wilson Co. the Chris-Craft dealer in Newport Beach, California - B.S.O. No. C-9997.
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Post by Don Ayers » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:26 am

Did you know that Ken Wilson is still alive and kicking. I was just talking with a guy yesterday about him.

We should do an interview with him.
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Post by Don Ayers » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:44 am

Sorry..my bad. Ken has been gone for many years. I got confused on who I was talking about.

The gentleman I am talking with remembers Ken and has some really good stories.
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Post by Bill Foley » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:16 pm

My 16' Special runabout (Rocket) was signed by Gordon Benson with a BSO No. B-7451 (R-16-797). Which plant would have manufactured this boat?

I am unable to decipher the name on our 1949 17' Deluxe Runabout is BSO No. C-3134 (R17-1817). I have attached the hull card
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Any inforamtion would be appricated. - - - Bill

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Post by jahearne » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:29 pm

Intresting post.

Our 1965 Super Sport's hull card is signed by Tony Dugan as well.

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Forrest G. Boerma

Post by dave tuttle » Mon May 24, 2010 10:33 pm

knotty48 wrote:Chad,
Thanks for the information!!
Does anyone else out there have the name Forrest G. Boerma as the signer on their hull card? This was on my 17' Deluxe and I would be interested who signed Al's hull card on his 1948 17' Deluxe. Second question is that I am still confused as to the B.S.O. No. B10336 at the top of my hull card and could this shed any light on the factory. Does this stand for Shop Order?
hello pete - i was reading this old posting and saw your subject question. my 1948 chris craft 17' deluxe runabout hull card was also signed by Forrest G. Boerma on 3/31/48. my hull # is R-17-1307. i have owned this boat for 30 + years. i actually saw your KNOTTY 48 this year at mt dora. nice boat - nice interior!

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Re: Factory information

Post by Ingersoll » Thu May 21, 2015 12:20 pm

Dredging up an OLD thread, looking at the hull card for my '47 17ft Deluxe Runabout Hull R-17-753, BSO #B5053 was signed by Forrest Boerma on 5/15/47

Boat was delivered to: Chris Craft Motor Boat Sales 247 Park Avenue New York
R-17-753

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Re: Factory information

Post by Riviera Wish » Thu May 21, 2015 4:35 pm

My two cents:

BSO C-9610, Hull No R-18-749 was signed by Anthony F. Dugan on 1/31/52.

Interesting that R-18-749 was signed and dated by Dugan BEFORE R-18-733.

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Re: Factory information

Post by Riviera Wish » Thu May 21, 2015 4:39 pm

Correction to last reply.
"BEFORE R-18-733" should read "BEFORE R-18-739"

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Re: Factory information

Post by ClassOf56 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:32 pm

My 1956 Conti (CL-18-230) was signed by Anthony Dugan as well on May 11, 1956

BSO is E-8061

On the top of my hull card it says Plant: Cadillac.

Don't they all list that?
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