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2 Hull Numbers?

Post by Doug P » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:44 pm

This one is new to me.
A 1948, very original custom runabout has R17-1341 stamped into the appropriate aresa...BUT, R17-1342 on to her brass ID engine cover plate.

Any answers? :?:

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Post by Chad Durren » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:30 pm

I'd try ordering hull card data for both 1341 and 1342 and compare. Perhaps the plates were mixed up at the factory?

I bet the "stamp guy" screwed up.
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Post by Doug P » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:04 pm

Great Idea

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Post by parroteyes » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:17 am

Where are the "appropriate places?"

My 1946 16' runabout has its bottom off, bottom bow removed, engine stringers fully exposed and I have yet to find any "appropriate place" where the hull number was marked on the boat.

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Hull # 16-R-OX2 (March 1946)
Engine 1B #26564

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Post by Kerry Price » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:05 am

My boat, an original and unrestored 1946 20'Custom Runabout has hull number R-20-092 stamped on the metal engine hatch plate. This number also appears in the "appropriate" places, which on this boat would be the starboard stringer in the engine area and the back face of the forward engine hatch frame. It also appears on numerous other frame members and miscellaneous components throughout the boat. I found several other stampings though -many which appear to be hull numbers- which differ from the one on the plate. I have wondered about this for some time and can only conclude that these components were pre cut and stamped and that the assembler didn't match the components properly to the boat he was working on. This does seem like an odd conclusion but I can't figure out what else may have happened. Here are some pictures of just some of the discrepancies I found.
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1946 20' Custom Runabout: R-20-092
1938 19' Sportsman: 19501
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... oat_id=532

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Post by parroteyes » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:20 am

My '46 is R-16-0X2 with the "X" meaning prototype.

It is also very original, having been in the family for about 60 years and never having had its bottom off, until now.

The number appears on the brass plate, but I have found no other numbers anywhere. I did not know exactly what I was looking for, or where, so I really appreciate your reply.

I suppose the lack of numbers may be because its a prototype and the pieces were all one of, made and assembled with no chance of getting mixed up with other boats or sizes.

Sure is a lot of supposing going on here!

Thanks

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Post by Al Benton » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:07 am

Kerry, that is strange. Once frame pieces were cut using templates, there was no need to stamp them with a hull number, they were all the same. Maybe someone thought it was a good idea but eventually realized it was a waste of time.

John, your prototype was probably used to make the templates to start production of the boat. The hull number probably wasn't necessary, it was a one of a kind (well, 2) until production started.

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Post by MikeM » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:15 am

I just sold a "barn find" U-18 which had this stamped on the forward deck piece/toe rail, as most sportsmans do....
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1929 Hacker Craft Dolphin, 24'
1940 Century Utility, 17'
1947 Chris Craft Special, 16'
1947 Chris Craft Sportsman, 22'
1949 Chris Craft Racing Runabout, 19'
1952 Penn Yan Cartopper, 12'
1954 Chris~Craft Racing Runabout, 19' (For Sale)
1971 Century Arabian, 19'
1973 Dan Arena Custom, 21'

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Post by Al Benton » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:38 am

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Post by Doug P » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:04 am

Found another Hull Number on the engine hatch itself R17 1343, so with 1341, 1342 and 1343, it leads me to believe like an automobile....never buy one that was made on a Monday :roll:

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Post by Bill Basler » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:06 pm

Doug it's pretty interesting you found three numbers on one boat. I don't think that is all that common, but I have heard many stories of two numbers....enough to know that's not all that uncommon.

I have an old Gar Wood that has an entire engine box from another sister 1936 utility. In contacting the owner of the other boat it turns out he has some parts with my number. All part of the charm.
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