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- rsundstrom
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Thanks Frank,
Excellent info. I actually called the Mariners Museum, and they cross referenced the engine numbers and got me the hull ID. Today, I found the plate while doing more cleaning. It was just loose siting on the floor. Both Engine Hatch covers had been re-done, as well as the seat backs, which is why I couldn't find it there.
Excellent info. I actually called the Mariners Museum, and they cross referenced the engine numbers and got me the hull ID. Today, I found the plate while doing more cleaning. It was just loose siting on the floor. Both Engine Hatch covers had been re-done, as well as the seat backs, which is why I couldn't find it there.
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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Very Interesting!!! I recieved my package today from Mariners Museum. Very cool
But I came to find out that the owner was selling this as a year model of 1957, but in fact according to the Hull card, it's really a 1955...and everything matches, I even found the Hull ID stamped in some wood, (Like you all said I would). So that was surprising
Now I ask the question, The title was issued from Canada to me, and I have yet to title it here in the States yet, so now that I find out it was really built in 1955, is this going to cause a problem???
But I came to find out that the owner was selling this as a year model of 1957, but in fact according to the Hull card, it's really a 1955...and everything matches, I even found the Hull ID stamped in some wood, (Like you all said I would). So that was surprising
Now I ask the question, The title was issued from Canada to me, and I have yet to title it here in the States yet, so now that I find out it was really built in 1955, is this going to cause a problem???
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1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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So here is a copy of the Hull Card.
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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well, glad you got the hull card. Check with your local licensing authority to answer that question. you can always show them the hull card. I am not sure when the model changeover year was for the bigger boats. maybe you can ask chris smith and see if he knows. so it is at least theoretically possible it is a 1956 model. maybe reading the 55 and 56 cc catalogs in the archives might be helpful if certain changes were made between the model years, and you might use that info to help decide what model year it was. At least we know year of manufacture. Keep us posted. still a neat boat regardless of model year.
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Many states will require a new HIN be issued since the original is not 12 digits long. You shouldn't have any issue with getting the correct year on the title with all of the paperwork that you have.
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I just thought after seeing it stamped "Received" on the hull card and the date being 1955, that it would have been built in 1955. I'll do some more digging.Don Vogt wrote: so it is at least theoretically possible it is a 1956 model. maybe reading the 55 and 56 cc catalogs in the archives might be helpful if certain changes were made between the model years, and you might use that info to help decide what model year it was. At least we know year of manufacture. Keep us posted. still a neat boat regardless of model year.
Thanks Don
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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Well that's a relief! Now that I have the hull card, I will proceed with the title!quitchabitchin wrote:Many states will require a new HIN be issued since the original is not 12 digits long. You shouldn't have any issue with getting the correct year on the title with all of the paperwork that you have.
thanks
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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Yes it was built in 55 but cc followed the car pattern and at some point in the year started making the next years model. So when that occurred with the cruisers I do not know.so there can be a difference between built year and model year.
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Well I emailed Mariners Museum, and based on their response...I'm calling her a 1955!
"Hi Rich,
Thank you for your email. The hull series SC-27 was built between 1955 and 1957. Your boat was built toward the beginning of the series and the hull card is clearly stamped as having shipped in 1955. Often, the boats built in late summer and fall were designated as the next year's model. (Not unlike in the car industry.) But there is no reason to think that your boat is anything other than a 1955 model--built, shipped, and released in 1955. The boats were built largely in sequential order--boat number 70 out of a series of 750 boats would almost definitely be from the first year of production.
Please let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like additional information.
Best,
Patti Hinson
Chris-Craft Services"
So there ya have it! Case Solved.
"Hi Rich,
Thank you for your email. The hull series SC-27 was built between 1955 and 1957. Your boat was built toward the beginning of the series and the hull card is clearly stamped as having shipped in 1955. Often, the boats built in late summer and fall were designated as the next year's model. (Not unlike in the car industry.) But there is no reason to think that your boat is anything other than a 1955 model--built, shipped, and released in 1955. The boats were built largely in sequential order--boat number 70 out of a series of 750 boats would almost definitely be from the first year of production.
Please let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like additional information.
Best,
Patti Hinson
Chris-Craft Services"
So there ya have it! Case Solved.
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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sounds like you can check that one off. Keep us posted on your restoration efforts and good luck!
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Or you could register your boat in Delaware where we have neither titles nor sales or use taxes.
All you need is a bill of sale and most boat supply stores can do it for you.
They don't even care that the boat is not in Delaware.
Did you ever wonder why so many boats have their hailing port as Wilmington, Delaware even mega yachts?
All you need is a bill of sale and most boat supply stores can do it for you.
They don't even care that the boat is not in Delaware.
Did you ever wonder why so many boats have their hailing port as Wilmington, Delaware even mega yachts?
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Always thought you had to have a Delaware Corporation for that to work.Dick Burkhard wrote:Or you could register your boat in Delaware where we have neither titles nor sales or use taxes.
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A Delaware corporation is helpful for other reasons but not necessary for state registration nor tax avoidance (however you should always run this type of decision by your tax attorney or accountant).
- rsundstrom
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Thanks Don, Will do!Don Vogt wrote:sounds like you can check that one off. Keep us posted on your restoration efforts and good luck!
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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Always a loop hole! Ha ha...Dick Burkhard wrote:Or you could register your boat in Delaware where we have neither titles nor sales or use taxes.
All you need is a bill of sale and most boat supply stores can do it for you.
They don't even care that the boat is not in Delaware.
Did you ever wonder why so many boats have their hailing port as Wilmington, Delaware even mega yachts?
1955 Sedan W/Flybridge
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!
H.L Mencken.
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