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Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

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John Cederstrom
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Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by John Cederstrom » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:00 pm

I'm restoring a 1946 16' Garwood Ensign and have pretty much got the deck ready for seal, stain and varnish. One more sanding required. I've got a question regarding installing the foredeck toe rail. I used the WEST System on the deck boards. I'm thinking I may want to remove the toe rail down the road for ease of re-varnishing the deck(maybe a dumb idea)[img][/img]. Would I be best using a non-adhesive caulk (if so, which one), or screwing the rail down with no caulk/adhesive, or gluing it down with WEST or 5200? See attached pics.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by Brian Robinson » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:04 pm

John,

I would use mahogany color Life Caulk or nothing at all.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by steve bunda » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:45 pm

I am with Brian , use nothing , just have a good fit.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by Captain Nemo » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:23 pm

I would use some Dolphinite bedding compound on that.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by John Cederstrom » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:06 am

Thanks to all. Great help. I wasn't sure what common practice was. I should have a good fit---am presently working on joint where the toe rails meet. Whichever way I choose I'll make sure the underside is sealed. Thanks again.

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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by maritimeclassics » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:48 pm

Wouldn't hurt to CPES the underside of the toe rail before you bed it. I would also use mahogany BoatLife
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by robertpaul » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:41 pm

Nice work.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by jfrprops » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:42 pm

Is Mahogany BoatLife less purple than mahogany 5200?

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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by maritimeclassics » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:32 am

Yes, but with 5200 you would never be able to get the toe rail off without ripping the wood deck apart.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by jfrprops » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:52 am

Agree, don't USE 5200.....but I was just curious if boatlife came in mahogany color...guess I need to look that up....but 5200 mahogany is purple to my eye.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by Brian Robinson » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:47 pm

Boat life makes Life Caulk which comes in a mahogany color which is a much better color than 3M5200's "mahogany" color. I rarely use it but for removable stuff it works well and very closely matches red stained mahogany.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by tkhersom » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:51 am

I have had great luck with all the Life Calk line. The mahogany color is very nice and is sand-able after curing. Be aware that Life Calk has about a 7 day cure time and needs humidity to cure. It can delay a project if you are not planning for it.

Boat Life also makes a product called Life Seal that works well and has a much shorter cure time, but is designed more for fiberglass.
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Re: Deck toe rail on 16' Garwood

Post by jfrprops » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:29 am

Thanks Troy and Brian, timely advice as to boatlife colors......John in Va.
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