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1959 cruiser deck framing question

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1959 cruiser deck framing question

Post by BrokenRule2 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:43 pm

Hello all.

Got a question on framing. Looking for answer or photo. While redoing the shore power connection I discovered why the side decks are soft. The framing is bad and looks to have been "fixed" (incorrectly) at one time.

The area is on a 40' Connie where the upper fore deck drops down for the side decks.

Photos below are from Port and Starboard take within the storage areas in Galley and Head.

If anyone has a like style cruiser and can reach in with a cell phone and snap a few photos - it would sure help me out. You can post them here or email them to me.
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starboard under deck at stantion
The deck framing is not connected other framing, it is rotted and just hanging
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starboard framing at power inlet
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starboard framing
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port deck support lower
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port deck support upper
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port power inlet
Both side are framed differently for the other and I sure could use a photo or two on the correct way to reframe this area.

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Re: 1959 cruiser deck framing question

Post by joanroy » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:50 am

It would be helpful if you post some photos from the outside of this area as well so I can see what the framing is holding together and condition on the exterior. Looks like waters been leaking in for a while there.When it comes to this type of repair on a cruiser don't be to concerned about how it was done originally or how it was repaired at some point. The main thing is to cut out the rotted wood and do what's necessary to support the exterior skin and get it water tight. I suspect the framing in that area was never too pretty from day one, but it was strong enough to do its job for many years. You'll have to figure out if you can do the repair from the inside out or if you'll have to open it up and go at it from the outside.

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Re: 1959 cruiser deck framing question

Post by evansjw44 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:47 am

I have seen this repair done on several similar cruisers. CC had this thing about making a step down from the foredeck to the side decks. In every case I saw, the hull planking was removed first to expose damaged framing.
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Re: 1959 cruiser deck framing question

Post by BrokenRule2 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:05 pm

Here is a view from outside:
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Port Side looking at shore power, this is the better side.
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Starboard side looking aft, this is the worse side.
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Re: 1959 cruiser deck framing question

Post by joanroy » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:24 am

Jim's right. The correct way to fix is from the outside in. Its a complicated and time consuming carpentry job. I don't know where your at with Lucky Girl, but this repair would be a low priority project compared to any bottom work that needs to be addressed. In other words a soft deck won't sink the boat, but a bad bottom will. You could try a little temporary reinforcement from underneath for now and do some deck caulking above with a plan to do a complete repair down the road.

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Re: 1959 cruiser deck framing question

Post by BrokenRule2 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:29 pm

Bottom work is schedule for Feb. 2016. Looking at doing this before hand as I would like to get the decks sealed up before it starts to rain. We all know it has stopped raining in California. However, now that I've got a boat with decks that are like screen doors... we should get a wet winter!

Material wise it is not much and I now have plenty of time on my hands.

Looks as if a framing board for the lower deck starts under the raiser deck about the length of the cabinets in the galley and head and those should hold up the outboard side. Does not need to be original, just strong to hold us old fat guys.

I've been keeping an eye out of scrap mahogany to do this as it's a waste to buy good long boards to cut up small framing members. I'm willing to pick up such in Nor California if anyone has such scrap and would like to sell it off at a fair price. Or trade for a used searchlight with remote???
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Thanks.

Mike
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