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- Jim Godlewski
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Dock Rash
It happened...
I was very pre occupied most of the day at the Algonac show and apparently I did not do a good job of tying up. This will be my first repair job since the restoration in 2010.
Looking for recommendation from the pro's on how to go about a fix for this. Dents are about 1-1.5mm deep
Thanks.
I was very pre occupied most of the day at the Algonac show and apparently I did not do a good job of tying up. This will be my first repair job since the restoration in 2010.
Looking for recommendation from the pro's on how to go about a fix for this. Dents are about 1-1.5mm deep
Thanks.
1956 17 Sportsman CC-17-2310
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Re: Dock Rash
Is it into the wood itself? If not, then tape off the area, build up numerous coats of varnish, and fine sand to feather it. Remove the tape and blend by rubbing out.
Tom
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Re: Dock Rash
Ditto what Tom says on the scratches. But I believe you said there were dents and scratches into the surface of the wood also. If true, and the dent isn't a deep puncture but rather a more broad dent, you can try this: get a wet-ish towel which you place on the surface of the damaged area. Then take an iron (like in ironing clothes) with it turned on hot, and see if you can actually steam the dent out. I have done this with some success, but only do one dent first to see how it goes. I keep the towel flat and tight, and use just the tip of the flat and hot iron on just the one dent. You just "dab" the iron's tip for a few seconds, lift the towel quickly to see if you made progress, then repeat the process several times. If it works, then try another, if not, or you don't want to risk lifting the varnish, stop, tape off, sand, and build up the surface as Tom said.Of course if the scratches went into the stain, you'll have to add stain first after the sanding in each place where bare wood shows. Or you could put Famowood into each dent, tape off, lightly sand everything flush, stain, and add the varnish coats, and then feather the edges of the varnish patch. If you think you might like to try the iron technique, the old saying "practice makes perfect" fits here, so find a scrap piece of thicker mahogany (the scratches and dents are on the toe rail right?) and try to reproduce the damage on the scrap wood. Then try the towel and iron technique. If it works for you, good, if not, OK too and you won't have risked the surface of your varnished boat. Good luck and let us know what you do and how it turned out.
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Re: Dock Rash
The iron will work on raw wood, but lift the varnish on your deck.
Phil Jones
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Re: Dock Rash
If you have dents. Thick super glue works really well.
- Jim Godlewski
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If it is into the wood it's very little.boat_art wrote:Is it into the wood itself? If not, then tape off the area, build up numerous coats of varnish, and fine sand to feather it. Remove the tape and blend by rubbing out.
Tom
1956 17 Sportsman CC-17-2310
1930 Model 100 7152
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Re: Dock Rash
Try filling with varnish, if it is too deep then like Jim said...the gap filling super glue.
Phil is right about the iron, that technique can work on bare wood but not on varnish.
Tom
Phil is right about the iron, that technique can work on bare wood but not on varnish.
Tom
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1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
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1953 Chris Craft Holiday
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Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
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- Jim Godlewski
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Once I build coat, what grit should I be using. Is this a wet or dry sand?boat_art wrote:Is it into the wood itself? If not, then tape off the area, build up numerous coats of varnish, and fine sand to feather it. Remove the tape and blend by rubbing out.
Tom
Thanks.
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- quitchabitchin
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Re: Dock Rash
Those docks at Algonac are certainly better suited for taller, larger boats. I got a little dock rash myself this weekend..
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Re: Dock Rash
Use 320 dry sanding. Dont go any finer than 320 or your varnish will not have enough tooth to hold well.Jim Godlewski wrote:Once I build coat, what grit should I be using. Is this a wet or dry sand?boat_art wrote:Is it into the wood itself? If not, then tape off the area, build up numerous coats of varnish, and fine sand to feather it. Remove the tape and blend by rubbing out.
Tom
Thanks.
Tom
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1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
1965 Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer
1953 Chris Craft Holiday
1941 Chris Craft Deluxe
Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
God don't count the days spent messing around in wood boats.
1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
1965 Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer
1953 Chris Craft Holiday
1941 Chris Craft Deluxe
Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
God don't count the days spent messing around in wood boats.
Re: Dock Rash
I would go with Howard, hot iron on damp towel will pull out most gouges without delaminating varnish coats...I didn't see chocks
- Jim Godlewski
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I hope it wasn't worse than mine...quitchabitchin wrote:Those docks at Algonac are certainly better suited for taller, larger boats. I got a little dock rash myself this weekend..
I miss the Saint Clair venue.
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- CaptainSeth
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Re: Dock Rash
So, do we think the wet towel/iron trick would work on this?
My 7 year old dropped the anchor at just the wrong time. Hopefully a quick repair and I'll be back to remembering the weekend like this:
Any need to stain or just try to build it back up with varnish (or super glue if it's still too deep)?My 7 year old dropped the anchor at just the wrong time. Hopefully a quick repair and I'll be back to remembering the weekend like this:
Captain Seth
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- Jim Godlewski
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I don't know since I do not yet have any iron experience but the second photo sure makes up for the first one.
1956 17 Sportsman CC-17-2310
1930 Model 100 7152
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Don't worry about that little ding. Fair it with a little sanding, touch up with stain and varnish it. Twenty years from now when your 7 year old is 27 that ding will bring back great memories for you and your son. Happy Boating!
- Captain Nemo
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I agree w/ Joanroy. Just fixitup. A boat w/ some dings and scratches garners more respect. It shows that it has been used and loved.
Boats are to be made of wood, otherwise, God would have grown fiberglass trees.
- robertpaul
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Those two little marks are from my daughter's brand new bottom teeth circa 1992. I took the picture this year! The cockpit will be refinished when I get to that stage with Elude, but I will work around these for sure. She is currently doing a PhD at Columbia in NYC, which proves that varnish and mahogany are brain food.
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Re: Dock Rash
This has to be, by far, the posting of the year!robertpaul wrote:Those two little marks are from my daughter's brand new bottom teeth circa 1992. I took the picture this year! The cockpit will be refinished when I get to that stage with Elude, but I will work around these for sure. She is currently doing a PhD at Columbia in NYC, which proves that varnish and mahogany are brain food.
Tom
http://www.boatartgallery.com
1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
1965 Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer
1953 Chris Craft Holiday
1941 Chris Craft Deluxe
Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
God don't count the days spent messing around in wood boats.
1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
1965 Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer
1953 Chris Craft Holiday
1941 Chris Craft Deluxe
Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
God don't count the days spent messing around in wood boats.
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