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1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by steve bunda » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:36 am

I have been asked to check the 48609 19 foot Chris Craft Barrel dash board for original stain color. The complete dash panel wood is dark from oxidation and age.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by steve bunda » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:44 am

Back of dash, I am going to remove the lower wood piece of the dash board from the back. It is cracked and was repaired with a small piece of metal as a splint . I will remove the nuts and metal brass angles on the lower instrument panel to relive the tension.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by steve bunda » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:17 am

Ok, I dropped the bottom piece of the dash , what can be seen is the original stain was Chris Craft red on this boat. Looking in other areas behind the dash board there are many areas that verify this color. Some areas are only stain , and others have a coat of old varnish over the red stain.

On another note , see the star washers under the instrument nuts and mounts.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by jim g » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:45 pm

Steve,

Heres a picture of the original stain that was behind the piece of wood on the dash of the last 19 Barrel I restored. This boat had come out of Canada about 15 years ago. Hull number is 48564.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:51 pm

If you remove that center panel, show us photos of what the surfaces are between the two? What stain had soaked in there?
My #48510 was in storage from 1958 to 1973, sold on a yard sale for $150, then stored in a metal shed from 1973 until 2006-when the third owner retired and started to work on it.
Unfortunately, an animal moved into the boat sometime in that last 33-year storage period. I'm told it was a porcupine by the gapped tooth marks left as he chewed on all the bottom frames and ate most of the upholstery. He also left the hull deep in urine-soaked feces for probably decades.
I believe that the ammonia in the urine probably acted like the old Oak furniture procedure of "Ammonia Fuming" used to stain the Oak dark brown. Perhaps that is why my boat was so much darker than most oxidized varnish?
Anyway, the dashboard on this boat was nearly black with oxidation (and fuming?), all of it, so were the ceiling planks and all varnished interior parts.
Its not until you disassemble these raised panel dashboards that you see the truth of the original color. They were stained Chris-Craft #11 Red, and hidden areas still show this. Only the exposed areas that were subject to Oxidation of the varnish and Photo-degradation of the wood by UV light, darken excessively. Some have mistaken this for walnut stain.

As you can see from this freshly removed center panel, the bare areas show that the two pieces were screwed together before they were stained Red. Only the CC #11 Red stain had sucked into the edges of these pieces. This type of dashboard was not removable, it was actually a deck beam. Hidden areas of its outboard attachments also show red stain.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:52 pm

This is the dash panel.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:54 pm

Close-up of stain that had soaked between the two pieces.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:57 pm

These were the ceiling planks.
Note that where the surface was covered with a tightly attached frame or ceiling batten, the Red stain still shows.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:59 pm

Does this 'prove' that ALL 19-Barrelbacks were stained Black on the ceiling planks?
I think not.
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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:28 pm

Ya know,
Reality allows that the "boats" know more than that of the intended paper-work?

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Re: 1939 barrel Dash Holy Grail

Post by Don Danenberg » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:07 pm

Wow!
After a fortnight..., still "Crickets"?

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