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Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:25 pm

Well, trying to figure out how to post a couple of pics of my boat hauled out last week.
An annual ritual that went well this time.
Picked up three knots of speed but after taking on 500 bucks in gas (more than the boat is worth...every time)....I can hardly run her fast and appreciate the slick bottom without having a tanker in tow.

John in Va
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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by seastrake » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:47 am

Hi john, nice cruiser. Have the same boat, going to paint it next spring. Any tips

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:14 am

seastrake,

glad to hear from you...where are you?

Paint: I quit using the expensive marine paints on the topsides....too hard for wood....I use Benjamin Moore porch and floor in white....you can get the oil based only in quarts...but it has held up very well. I have friend with an Elco that uses the latex version of that same paint and I swear it is the most durable finish in our marina.

John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by joanroy » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:25 pm

The latex is very durable and long lasting, but unlike oil paint which is breathable, latex is a plastic coating and completely locks in moisture. It could lead to some serious rot problems down the road. Also, it doesn't sand well and makes fairing and touching up difficult. I'd stay with oil based products.

Beautiful Skiff John!

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by boat_art » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:41 pm

Joanroy is right....never use latex on a boat
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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by tkhersom » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:14 am

John in VA!

Nice to finally see some pics of your boat. :D

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by evansjw44 » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:14 am

The Bennie Moore paints are really good. I use the porch paints in gray for bilge paint. That paint has a lot of pigment and it covers really well. It lays a thicker coat then say Interlux. When one of the colors I use on my boat disappears I get a color match from a local paint mixer or I go to Bennie Moore for a color match. One caution, some of the Moore gloss paints have a toluol base and will lift older paints. Lesson learned when substituting Moore for Pettit water line color. That stuff essentially stripped my entire water line. I could peel it off in sheets.
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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:14 am

in re Ben Moore.......I did not say I used the latex, only that the fellow that did has the best finish in the marina. I too am afraid to use the latex....but it is better than it historically was........ I used the oil based...only available in quarts now...and that at about 26 bucks a can. I firmly believe that the modern marine paints are ill suited for our wooden boats.

John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by boat_art » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:57 pm

Just curious, why are you against marine paints?
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1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
1965 Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer
1953 Chris Craft Holiday
1941 Chris Craft Deluxe
Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:07 pm

in my experience all of them are too hard and don't flex even a little..Not meant for our old wooden boats ..I have painted my old boat every year since 1994...and the best result on the top sides has been the house paint, the ben moore.....on the lap strakes my hauler/painter still insist on the pettit 101 white....and ablative bottom paint.

John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by boat_art » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:02 am

Interesting. Been using Interlux Brightside exclusively for many years on probably 50+ boats....havent had a problem at all. On customer boats I always use Interlux Precoat but on some of mine I use industrial oil based primer.
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1956 CC Connie 47'
1959 Caulkins bartender
1965 Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer
1953 Chris Craft Holiday
1941 Chris Craft Deluxe
Plus 8-12 customer boats at any time
God don't count the days spent messing around in wood boats.

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:20 am

Clearly though one must factor in the salt environment here on the Chesapeake.....I am sure paint performance varies with conditions....my boat is in a covered slip also.

John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by Jim Bell » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:19 pm

boat_art wrote:Interesting. Been using Interlux Brightside exclusively for many years on probably 50+ boats....havent had a problem at all. On customer boats I always use Interlux Precoat but on some of mine I use industrial oil based primer.
+2 on that, I have used Brightside on several projects and plan on using it on my sea skiff restoration.

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:42 am

I really think the difference here is not a distinction.....

I am just a Go Boating guy and very certainly NOT at the level of skill, prep, and perfection of finish that you guys are talking about....

I will keep doing it my way....but I will never win any prize for perfection.....

John in Va.
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by seastrake » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:09 pm

Hi John, my boat is in San Deigo. What type of filler do you use? So far I have sanded & cpes the salon & helm decks. Have some dry rot on the gunwale next to the toerail. My next project is to cpes and fill the gunwale & fair all of the above. The toerail has been sanded, cleaned, brightend and 6 coats of varnish, looks good. Having trojble posting pics.

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by tkhersom » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:34 am

Troy in ANE - President CCABC

1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1958 CC 38' Connie "American Beauty"
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22607/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"

Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat

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Re: Seastrake cruiser repaint

Post by jfrprops » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:41 am

Right you are Troy my boy! Seriously Sinatra is the ONLY reason I still have XM radio in the truck!!!!

it is "my way or the WATER WAY"......going boating

John in Va
1980 Fairchild Scout 30
19?? custom Argentine Runabout 16'
1954 Whirlwind deluxe dual ckpt 16'
1921 Old Town Charles River 17' (founding Captain, James River Batteau Festival)

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