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Post by bjornbakken » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:47 pm

On the drawing I have for my 17' Deluxe, the wording "saddle" is used, 41" from the outside transom corner forward, and 6' 7 1/2" apart. Is this the same as the placement for the original shipping cradle?

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Post by Al Benton » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:30 am

Bjorn,

You are exactly right. The cross members of the shipping crate were called saddles. They were built to conform to the bottom contour of the boat much the same as a horse saddle is usually contoured to the rider's bottom. I may be an exception to that though.
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Post by Matt Smith » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:51 am

Well, that was short and sweet. That's it.. one correct answer and its done? When you ask a question like this, you need to make it so we can all guess and confuse you..
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Post by Al Benton » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:39 am

Matt & Bjorn, my sincere apologies for taking all the fun out of this one. Gee, we could have had ourselves meeting at the museum to research the word "saddle" as it applies to a Chris-Craft boat, not a horse or mule. In that context we would have been lead immediately to the huge file folder full of Chirs-Craft Babes to closely study the various contours of wazoos in search of the use of the word as it somehow relates to boats. Dang!!!
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Post by Matt Smith » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:46 am

just another missed oportunity, I will aplaud you though, you fit in the word WAZZOO.. Dang..
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Post by Al Benton » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:15 pm

Matt, now we can change the definition of the 5200 "bottom" too. WoooHooo! Much cleaner term than has been used in the past. Bottom??? Oh My!!!
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Post by farupp » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:50 pm

Do we need to change the forum topic "On the Hard" to "Back in the Saddle?"
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Post by parroteyes » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:31 pm

OMG Its months until the thaw and you all are already loosing it!

I note there is very little activity on the Buzz, so I guess there is a need to say sumpin.

So what else do you do until boatin season returns?
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Post by gbraker » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Everybody's fingers are tired.

I had to log in to leave this reply. I guess something has been changed.

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Post by Don Ayers » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:21 pm

You know the subject of cradles and trailers is a very interesting one especially when you compare and contrast the recreational boating evolution in the US vs. Europe.

Most of our CC runabouts and utilities were never intended to be trailered but rather stored on the factory cradle or in a boathouse. Over in Europe the boating did not develop the same as here and there are fewer man-made lakes. Boating was less for the masses and more for the wealthy. The boats over there were cared for, stored and serviced in boat yards.
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Post by bjornbakken » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:55 pm

Matt: Al and I don't need 183 reply's to agreed that CC are THE best boat :D
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Post by MikeM » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:04 pm

Careful......
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Post by Don Ayers » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:04 pm

Saw your blog

Very nice work!!
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Post by Al Benton » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:15 pm

Bjorn, there is no way that we could repeat what happened on WoodyBoater.com yesterday (183 comments), or today (50 more) for that matter. That was fun. Can't wait til tie Virtual Christmas Party.

Frank, note the Subject name in this post...
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Post by farupp » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:05 am

Al, I was just joining Matt and others in trying to get the fun back into the posts after two or three weeks of rampant negativity.

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Post by Don Ayers » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:15 am

Don Ayers wrote:You know the subject of cradles and trailers is a very interesting one especially when you compare and contrast the recreational boating evolution in the US vs. Europe.

Most of our CC runabouts and utilities were never intended to be trailered but rather stored on the factory cradle or in a boathouse. Over in Europe the boating did not develop the same as here and there are fewer man-made lakes. Boating was less for the masses and more for the wealthy. The boats over there were cared for, stored and serviced in boat yards.
No one wants to jump on this topic. I've never read any detailed work on why and how our receational boating (overall) evolved the way it has.
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Post by Al Benton » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:10 pm

Don, I wonder if the construction of man-made lakes, most of which are Corps of Engineering projects that doesn't allow private mooring facilities had anything to do with the need for boaters to start using trailers to haul their boats home.

Hey Frank, look at the "Post Subject" on my previous post, not the "Thread Title". I agree with you. I like it!
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Post by farupp » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:24 pm

Al, I missed the "Post Subject" vs. "Thread Title" subtlety in your post. Old age, I guess!

Anyway, with the US being so large, CC may have assumed that most boats wouldn't be trailered. They obviously didn't anticipate that CCABC members are gypsies and take their boats to the water wherever there are roads.
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Post by gbraker » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:41 pm

Were the cars of the day powerful enough to pull boats and trailers?

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Post by gbraker » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:48 pm

I'm thinking that pre war boats were mostly owned by rich people that hung them in a boat house. That's why they are all equipped with lift rings. If you were going to trailer a boat you wouldn't have needed them.

Even post war boats were equipped with lift rings, and I think they came standard.

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Post by Al Benton » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:09 pm

There were a few trailers used prior to the 50's. A Lot of them used the saddles from shipping cradles on the trailer frame and had their boats set on them using a crane. Couldn't launch or retrieve using these. Heck, boat ramps were far and few between as well.
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