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Re: Connie Refresh
We all encounter the occasional (once a week) angst over whether to persist with our cruisers or not. Elude is worth it to our family and probably us alone. If you have a cruiser, keep it out of the elements unless you are using her. I like Peter's summer setup for a marina without covered slips. I am into the second year of retirement and expect Elude to launch for next summer. I posted my dome shelter on Laclede's thread before. It has been bullet proof, affords light and uv protection.
Good luck, we are living the dream too!
Rob in Toronto
Good luck, we are living the dream too!
Rob in Toronto
1937 35' Double Stateroom Enclosed Cruiser
Re: Connie Refresh
This brings up a whole other subject. American Beauty will be on a mooring.
Sounds like I will need to start a fund for canvas.
Sounds like I will need to start a fund for canvas.
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
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Re: Connie Refresh
Whatever you spend to protect the boat from sun and rain is money well spent IMHOP
Rob's dome shelter is awesome......i want one.
Rob's dome shelter is awesome......i want one.
Re: Connie Refresh
February Update!
As per usual there have been some changes in the plan.
First I am not going to FWC these engines at this time. The port (opposite rotation engine) is getting new bearings only. Reverse gears are being gone through. Wiring and plumbing is complete.
Her bottom has been tightened and painted.
Also got some bright work done.
And Mom came to see how thing were progressing. (I think she is concerned I will be to busy to keep up with Yorktown also)
Found that I did not need cutlass bearings after all.
As per usual there have been some changes in the plan.
First I am not going to FWC these engines at this time. The port (opposite rotation engine) is getting new bearings only. Reverse gears are being gone through. Wiring and plumbing is complete.
Her bottom has been tightened and painted.
Also got some bright work done.
And Mom came to see how thing were progressing. (I think she is concerned I will be to busy to keep up with Yorktown also)
Found that I did not need cutlass bearings after all.
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
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Re: Connie Refresh
A real beauty.....so is the boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Rubber....easier to get out to cleantkhersom wrote:
I am having drip pans installed. My restorer was thinking fiberglass pans, I was picturing stainless steel.
Any opinions out there?
Re: Connie Refresh
Are you messing with me?Doug P wrote:Rubber....easier to get out to cleantkhersom wrote:
I am having drip pans installed. My restorer was thinking fiberglass pans, I was picturing stainless steel.
Any opinions out there?
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Nope....
More commonly called spill trays, available at Graingers and most larger auto stores
http://www.grainger.com/product/ULTRATE ... s_pp=false
More commonly called spill trays, available at Graingers and most larger auto stores
http://www.grainger.com/product/ULTRATE ... s_pp=false
Re: Connie Refresh
Cool!
Do you prefer the Poly or PVC?
Do you prefer the Poly or PVC?
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Poly will break down in time
Re: Connie Refresh
Poly will break down in time, but usually in UV light
Re: Connie Refresh
In an interesting twist of events I was speaking with the former former owner of American Beauty yesterday. He informed me that AB was originally owned by Jim Irwin of Irwin Marine on Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire. This was very exciting to find out and explains why she has been maintained so well over all these years.
The more challenging part of our conversation was that he told me that he would like to own AB again. I don't expect to let her go, but I really question if I can care for her the way she deserves.
The more challenging part of our conversation was that he told me that he would like to own AB again. I don't expect to let her go, but I really question if I can care for her the way she deserves.
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
UPDATE!
Here are some shots of my Port Engine. I am looking for .010 undersized main bearings. Jerry @ Hercano has a set of .020 under but I don't want to have to grind that much if I can help it. Got a message from M & M Surplus that he can get me .020 under (not sure if they are the same set or not). Waiting to hear back from Dave VanNess, Sam Winer Motors, and Mills Motor Parts. Got most of these names from Jim Staib. Thanks for the help Jim!
Any other ideas?
Here are some shots of my Port Engine. I am looking for .010 undersized main bearings. Jerry @ Hercano has a set of .020 under but I don't want to have to grind that much if I can help it. Got a message from M & M Surplus that he can get me .020 under (not sure if they are the same set or not). Waiting to hear back from Dave VanNess, Sam Winer Motors, and Mills Motor Parts. Got most of these names from Jim Staib. Thanks for the help Jim!
Any other ideas?
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
So - Does that mean you prefer PVC?Doug P wrote:Poly will break down in time, but usually in UV light
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Actually. I still like rubber. I bought one in a feed store. They are more flexible if you want to take them out.
I think these people may have some http://www.miller-mfg.com/
I think these people may have some http://www.miller-mfg.com/
Re: Connie Refresh
I have come to be very fond of this number.
As any of you know who have worked with these cruisers the hull number is stamped into about everything. The pieces were made in another shop in the Holland plant then brought to the boat at the time of installation.
So you can imagine my surprise when working on the cover board that the helm footrest mounts to I found the # 38 X 302.
This made me wonder if it was a bad day in the Holland Plant or if somehow it got switched after leaving the plant, so I called The Mariners Museum and spoke with Cortland who informed me that the full number is X6S-38-302 (a six sleeper) and was shipped to Rodi Marine in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. American Beauty is X4S-38-305 (a four sleeper) and was shipped to Irwin Marine in Lakeport, New Hampshire.
From that I would have to conclude that this piece of wood has been with AB from the start.
Here is a little info I found while searching Rodi Marine.
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... php?t=1397
As any of you know who have worked with these cruisers the hull number is stamped into about everything. The pieces were made in another shop in the Holland plant then brought to the boat at the time of installation.
So you can imagine my surprise when working on the cover board that the helm footrest mounts to I found the # 38 X 302.
This made me wonder if it was a bad day in the Holland Plant or if somehow it got switched after leaving the plant, so I called The Mariners Museum and spoke with Cortland who informed me that the full number is X6S-38-302 (a six sleeper) and was shipped to Rodi Marine in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. American Beauty is X4S-38-305 (a four sleeper) and was shipped to Irwin Marine in Lakeport, New Hampshire.
From that I would have to conclude that this piece of wood has been with AB from the start.
Here is a little info I found while searching Rodi Marine.
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... php?t=1397
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
My boat also came out of Holland. Also mismatching numbers.
Helping a friend 2 years ago on his CC Deluxe...It had 3 hull numbers
Helping a friend 2 years ago on his CC Deluxe...It had 3 hull numbers
Re: Connie Refresh
I am still hoping to find .010 bearings but went ahead and bought a set of .020's from Jerry at Hercano in case I can't get the ones I want.
Is this cool or what?
Is this cool or what?
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Glad I ran across this thread. Peter, I'm another one that loves the '60's Cruisers. Mine is a '60 36'10" Connie that was in the water when I bought her 4 years ago. One engine not running. I have been extremely lucky in that to date we have found no rot. But I'm a long way from being done.
I would've benefited greatly from a plan of work from a professional before I started in on her. But I was a novice and just started in. Started with refinishing the hull - best thing that did was to verify that the planking, keel etc. were all in good shape. I'd had an in & out survey done before purchasing so I had a fair idea but still no real concept for the amount of time and $ it would take. In my mind I thought I could be on the water for about 20k. At about 15k I knew it would be more. I've got about 22k into it now and will probably have to put another 15 - 20k into it, unless I can do a lot more of the work myself.
My boat is an hour away from me and this year I've really been trying to figure out a way to get it here at home so that I can spend more time and less $ on her. I've moved her twice and lost an entire year because I had it at an indoors location where I didn't have access to her on Sundays which was my only available time. Now I've got her at a place where I can get to her but she's outside again. The Bow building talked about here has really got me thinking again about having it at home.
Funds have been scarce now for about 18 months and my Boatwright has talked to me a couple of times about selling her and going for something a little more manageable. My Boatress has also suggested that. I did look at a couple of 27' - 30' Connies but I really want to stay with my 36'. I don't think I could sell her for enough to do another anyway. So I'm in the 'Keep On Keepin' On' camp!
My remaining major tasks are: 1)Getting my rebuilt engine reinstalled. 2)Making sure the Enclosed Cooling systems in both engines work well. 3) Make sure that transmissions and Drive trains work well. 4) Sort out electrical systems as they are a mixed bag right now. 5) Get decent electronics aboard. 6) Refinish Teak Decks. 7) Internal cabin work, mostly rebuild Settee/Bunk Berth that was shortened to accommodate full size fridge which I have removed. Make sure all 3 Bildge pumps work correctly.
Still a goodly amount to go but at least I can now see the tasks and put together a real work plan.
I would've benefited greatly from a plan of work from a professional before I started in on her. But I was a novice and just started in. Started with refinishing the hull - best thing that did was to verify that the planking, keel etc. were all in good shape. I'd had an in & out survey done before purchasing so I had a fair idea but still no real concept for the amount of time and $ it would take. In my mind I thought I could be on the water for about 20k. At about 15k I knew it would be more. I've got about 22k into it now and will probably have to put another 15 - 20k into it, unless I can do a lot more of the work myself.
My boat is an hour away from me and this year I've really been trying to figure out a way to get it here at home so that I can spend more time and less $ on her. I've moved her twice and lost an entire year because I had it at an indoors location where I didn't have access to her on Sundays which was my only available time. Now I've got her at a place where I can get to her but she's outside again. The Bow building talked about here has really got me thinking again about having it at home.
Funds have been scarce now for about 18 months and my Boatwright has talked to me a couple of times about selling her and going for something a little more manageable. My Boatress has also suggested that. I did look at a couple of 27' - 30' Connies but I really want to stay with my 36'. I don't think I could sell her for enough to do another anyway. So I'm in the 'Keep On Keepin' On' camp!
My remaining major tasks are: 1)Getting my rebuilt engine reinstalled. 2)Making sure the Enclosed Cooling systems in both engines work well. 3) Make sure that transmissions and Drive trains work well. 4) Sort out electrical systems as they are a mixed bag right now. 5) Get decent electronics aboard. 6) Refinish Teak Decks. 7) Internal cabin work, mostly rebuild Settee/Bunk Berth that was shortened to accommodate full size fridge which I have removed. Make sure all 3 Bildge pumps work correctly.
Still a goodly amount to go but at least I can now see the tasks and put together a real work plan.
Bill Hammond
1960 36' Connie
Flint/Port Huron, MI
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... at_id=1708
1960 36' Connie
Flint/Port Huron, MI
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... at_id=1708
Re: Connie Refresh
Gotta LOVE Flitz!
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Here is a question I am asking in the "Hull Construction" area.
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... f=3&t=8736
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... f=3&t=8736
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Here is a reply to your query posted in the "Hull Construction" area.
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... 650#p53650
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... 650#p53650
Bill Hammond
1960 36' Connie
Flint/Port Huron, MI
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... at_id=1708
1960 36' Connie
Flint/Port Huron, MI
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... at_id=1708
Re: Connie Refresh
Hi Gang:
It feels like I am making two steps forward than one backward. At least my ratio still provides forward motion.
Here is a link to my latest challenge.
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... f=6&t=8741
Thanks for all the input!
Makes me feel like I am not alone out here.
It feels like I am making two steps forward than one backward. At least my ratio still provides forward motion.
Here is a link to my latest challenge.
http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/v ... f=6&t=8741
Thanks for all the input!
Makes me feel like I am not alone out here.
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
UPDATE!
Jim Staib shipped my engine gaskets this week. I should see them Tuesday. http://www.finewoodboats.com/
I spoke with a local machine shop who is going to make my planetary pins. I meet with Tony Monday.
Still shooting for the 4th of July.
Jim Staib shipped my engine gaskets this week. I should see them Tuesday. http://www.finewoodboats.com/
I spoke with a local machine shop who is going to make my planetary pins. I meet with Tony Monday.
Still shooting for the 4th of July.
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Troy.....Matt put up a new thread....for Constellations.
Life is too ugly to own a short boat
Life is too ugly to own a short boat
Re: Connie Refresh
Someone mentioned earlier that Peter had a good plan for protection for cruisers that were not in covered slips. I've looked back and I don't see it in this thread. Could someone post the link? Thanks! Now I'm over to the new Constellation thread!
Bill Hammond
1960 36' Connie
Flint/Port Huron, MI
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... at_id=1708
1960 36' Connie
Flint/Port Huron, MI
http://www.chris-craft.org/registry/vie ... at_id=1708
Re: Connie Refresh
As many of you may know I work out of what I call "The Boat Barn". This is a GREAT little building that a very generous neighbor allows me to use.
Obviously the Boat Barn is not big enough for American Beauty, however Yorktown fits very nicely and allows me space enough to bring parts and pieces of AB to work on.
One of my favorite thing to do is to get up early and go spend an hour (or so) working in the Barn before I get ready for my work day. I figure any day that starts out working on a Chris Craft is going to be a great day.
Yesterday while I was sanding the swim platform of American Beauty on the bench next to Yorktown I got a little perspective.
The swim platform, at 10 feet, is almost 1/2 the length of Yorktown (being a 21 Continental) and the width of the platform (30") is as tall as the free board from the water line to the gar board on Yorktown. If you take into consideration the arch the swim platform it is actually taller.
I guess I knew this factually before, but working on it side by side gave me new perspective.
Troy in ANE
Obviously the Boat Barn is not big enough for American Beauty, however Yorktown fits very nicely and allows me space enough to bring parts and pieces of AB to work on.
One of my favorite thing to do is to get up early and go spend an hour (or so) working in the Barn before I get ready for my work day. I figure any day that starts out working on a Chris Craft is going to be a great day.
Yesterday while I was sanding the swim platform of American Beauty on the bench next to Yorktown I got a little perspective.
The swim platform, at 10 feet, is almost 1/2 the length of Yorktown (being a 21 Continental) and the width of the platform (30") is as tall as the free board from the water line to the gar board on Yorktown. If you take into consideration the arch the swim platform it is actually taller.
I guess I knew this factually before, but working on it side by side gave me new perspective.
Troy in ANE
Troy in ANE - Former President CCABC
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
1957 CC 21' Continental "Yorktown" (Mom's boat)
https://www.chris-craft.org/boats/22625/
1985 Formula 242LS "Gottago"
1991 Formula 36PC "Band Aids"
Life Is Too Short To Own An Ugly Boat
Re: Connie Refresh
As far as how many cruisers CZc made! it is online but can't remember where at the moment. I do know the peak year was in 1961 with 1090 cruisers turned out and downhill from there until 1973.
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